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Bowser... is this right?

Post  highpressure on Sat 08 Oct 2011, 9:14 am

I have been putting the bowser together today and when I tried the wheels on the axle the pin wouldnt go through the axle as the thrust washer doesnt give enough clearance, seems to cover half the hole. I assume the sequence is right as in thrust washer on axle, oilite bearings in hub, brass retainer in outer face then pin through?? Its not a great issue as I can get the washer turned down just need to check with others that have done the kit before.

Also I have a 9/16 x 26 brass plug for the engine, does this go in one side of the steam head?? Cant find reference to this on the words....

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Post  craig@STW on Sat 08 Oct 2011, 10:54 am

cant remember if it applies to this kit, but some of our axles/ thrust washers have a radius on them. are these mating up properly ???

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Post  Robfishman on Sat 08 Oct 2011, 3:13 pm

Paint drying on the axle today but will try it tomorrow and see if were the same.

Thanks also to Craig, picked the springs up from post office in the week and these are also in paint. Very Happy

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Post  lynnr on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 2:37 am

Mine went together fine.

Yes the brass plug goes on one side of the steam head.

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Post  Robfishman on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 6:01 am

Mine is the same, inner thrust bearing needs to be reduced by about half it's width. Also when the outer is fitted the oil hole is half covered, Easy fix though will get the thrust bearing reduced both sides:D


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Post  highpressure on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

This is the set up on the axle. The thrust washer seems too large or there should be a hole in the brass reatiner to allow the pin through?







It isnt tapered by the way and the end of the axle is square too.

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Post  craig@STW on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 11:35 am

i may be wrong but i thought the inner hub cover should fit over the washer on the Axel ??

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Post  highpressure on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 11:49 am

Hi Craig,

I'll give that a try tomorrow or maybe tonight, doesnt seem to be right knowing how this stuff usally goes together well. Probably user error although the instructions were a bit sparse on final assembly etc so I just put it together. The words say the thrust washer should be glued to the axle with retainer, doesnt mention shoving the oilte bearing further into the hub to gain clearance and from memory I dont think it will go inside the hub cover. I will re read and report.

Just been down to the workshop, the thrust washer definately wont go inside the hub cover. The instructions say to knock the bearings in till they are flush with the outer face which means the outer brass thrust bearing wont then go inside the hub as shown in the photo.

Kev.

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Post  Robfishman on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 2:11 pm

Im my case, with the outer brass thrust bearing fitted as in the picture the outer bearing covers half the oil hole suggesting its to far in the hub?


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Post  craig@STW on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 2:15 pm

something is saying to me... brass ring on the inside, steel on the outside. no ???

i'll have a look tomorrow Cool

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Post  Robfishman on Sun 09 Oct 2011, 2:24 pm

The overall lenght of the parts (inner thrust bearing, hub, and outer thrust bearing) is greater then the distance from from the square section of the axle to the hole for the pin. Not sure it would matter which way round it was fitted?

Edit..just in case I have checked mine its the same both ways round, however in the way you suggest Craig the oil hole is not covered by the bearing so it seems to be along the right lines, but not strictly as the instructions, I wonder if its just the parts have gone in the wrong bags? Not that this helps with the pin problem though. Smile

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Post  craig@STW on Mon 10 Oct 2011, 12:02 am

OK, it would seem you have the wrong parts. the outer trust washer is an old style part that we no longer use !!!! it would seem that for some stupid reason the new part has the same part number Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

you should have four (one per wheel) wheel retaining collars, steel rings with hole, and a pin to go through the ring and axle. this is then held in place by the hub cap

if you don't have these we will get them out to you Cool

sorry bout that Embarassed

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 10 Oct 2011, 12:04 am

If you could that would be great.

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Post  craig@STW on Mon 10 Oct 2011, 12:09 am

yeah, they are already in a jiffy bag Cool

pop the others in the bin Rolling Eyes

oh yeah, two wheels on the bowser so you should have two, not four. my mistake... it's Monday morning... come on Suspect Wink

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 10 Oct 2011, 12:49 am

lol! Many thanks

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Post  craig@STW on Thu 13 Oct 2011, 7:00 am

right then, due to me not concentrating on this topic properly Embarassed ...

we have sent the correct parts out to one person but not the other. sorry, they are in the post today Cool

what we need on here is actors reading out the posts in strong accents so i can tell the difference between people... just like on points of view Razz Razz

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Post  highpressure on Thu 13 Oct 2011, 11:34 am

No Prob, thanks Craig, Perhaps we need a little Dick Turpin icon for those who Hijack threads.... Laughing Laughing ( Said with a tongue in cheek style )

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Post  Robfishman on Thu 13 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm

pirat lol!

Thanks Craig they arrived today, and spent a few hours tonight fitting the tyers.

To fit the pin I still had to turn down the inner washer by about 2mm, however I reduced the width of the original brass outer one (easier with the equipment I have) and used this on the inner and all fits fine. : Smile

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Post  craig@STW on Thu 13 Oct 2011, 11:53 pm

its worth trying the locking collars "both ways". they don't always come out on the centre. sometimes we move them a bit to get a good fit !!!

lol! @ the pirat

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