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Post  Flasback on Sun 03 Nov 2013, 8:20 am

Rob looking very good, wait to you take it to the rallies, that will draw a crowd. Wait to you get oil and dirt on it:P . It takes about 3 days to get the engine clean for a rally with all the brass and rubbing. Brian W always has a good laugh at us when he is enjoying the engine and we are still cleaning (to be fair its part of the fun) I now have shares in Brasso and my wife has stopped taking clothes to the charity shop.

I spent ages painting the chimney and now 30% of it has blown off, job for the winter but people keep asking for steam gatherings over the winter months so unless its snowing I am not too sure when it will be ready for winter.

By the way you must be a very strong lad, those two pieces of metal combined way a fair bit.

Look forward to seeing it in steam.

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Post  Kevster on Sun 03 Nov 2013, 11:35 am

Rob,

Your engine is going to look very impressive, I am looking forward to seeing it all coming together


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Post  Robfishman on Sun 03 Nov 2013, 7:21 pm

Thanks for your kind words everyone, there are some wonderful STW engines out there and I hope mine will be good enough to add to the list and show off the hard work and quality being achieved by STW. I've still a long way to go before it's in steam, but having had the week off I've really enjoyed this kit and am pleased with the way it's turned out.

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Post  bjwlancashire on Mon 04 Nov 2013, 9:50 pm

Rob

That sub-assembly is looking really well, cant wait to see this one completed.

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Post  Robfishman on Tue 05 Nov 2013, 3:40 pm

Thanks Brian, was off last week and got quite a bit done, including lots of those little jobs I've left for a rainy day. Even better I'm off again in three weeks and just got a text that another package is being delivered tomorrow. I'll have to go and collect it later in the week, but it will have moved on quite a bit in the month.

I gave a build update last night and was a bit worried that I'd not done much this year with the various deposits paid, but when I came to put the presentation together actually found quite a bit had been done. Again the membership were impressed, especially with the quality of the castings.
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Post  Robfishman on Wed 06 Nov 2013, 2:34 pm

Great news, kit delivered today is the rear axel (Kit 10).  So the Engine will be on its wheels now by Mid December I would hope, if not certainly by beginning of January.  cheers cheers 

Must finish the lining works over the next few weeks before I'm off again for a week at the end of the month, still got one rear wheel to be done, and final lines on the rear of one of the fronts.
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Post  Robfishman on Tue 03 Dec 2013, 9:53 pm

Last night I had a bit of a disaster and broke the cotter stud / drive pin peg in the hub. Think when we put the hub together some Araldite got in the tread (not a surprise). Like a fool I said to put the pins part way in so as not to loose them and now they are stuck fast, clearly I wasn't thinking at the time of the discussion.

Anyway have emailed STW Towers for replacements and will carefully heat them up in the hope it breaks down the glue and I can get them out, not a happy camper but have to get them back out again somehow. Sad 
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Post  Robfishman on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 5:16 pm

Good news is I had an hour in the workshop today and they are out with minimum damage to the paintwork. Hubs will need a new top coat before lining out.
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Post  lynnr on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 5:43 pm

Have you got the modified, longer pins for replacing?
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Post  Robfishman on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 7:30 pm

Yes, thanks Lynn.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 8:25 pm

Christmas came early and today I received the cylinder block which looks great.  It almost passed the "6 foot drop from the back of a van as i can't be arsed to pick it up test" and certainly faired better than Bill's and others, but then ours our lighter.  Its a real work of art.



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and one of the damage.....I'll double check with STW towers but I don't think this will be too detrimental to the operation just bloody frustrating for all concerned.  


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Post  lynnr on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 8:28 pm

Hi rob

That's a shame. It should not have any depremental effect as it is outside of the bolt effect area. Bit of epoxy putty shaped and painted should hide it well enough.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 8:30 pm

That's my initial view as well Lynn, such a shame as there is a lot of work gone into these.  You could see that when it was picked up the bottom of the cardboard box caved in  which may have been when it was dropped.  Still although the box was in a bit of a mess all was still inside which was good and nothing missing.
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Post  lynnr on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 8:46 pm

It's really strange as my block box came in basically ex-factor condition. Bit of scuffing on the bottom face but no other damage. I would have expected my parcels to suffer a lot as go through more sorting centers on the way.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 8:52 pm

I suspect the issue is more about the quality of the seasonal labour being used than anything else if I'm honest.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 7:39 pm

Have progressed reasonably well over the Christmas break and caught up quite a bit.  I have spend the afternoon in the workshop to fit the rear axle tube and second shaft.  This as expected required the removal of the Tender and Hornplates, together with the handle for the fire doors.  It's gone together quicker  than I had expected however two questions are nagging at the back of my mind.

1 - The bolts for fitting the 2nd shaft are two different lengths (8nr 20mm (with nuts) and 6nr 15mm) logic says that the 20mm ones fix the shaft box side of the assembly to the hornplate (8 holes this side and 6 the other).  The hornplate holes are threaded so I wonder why are nuts supplied, are these not required?  As the bolts are the correct length for nuts to be fitted I wonder if the bolts should be screwed through the hornplates and the nuts on the inside (opposite to below where I have put them on the outside so they don't get lost)?  One of these I am sure will clash with the tender so I am now wondering if I should just use 15mm in all of them?  


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2 - It looks like the only way to get to the bolts on the back of the 2nd shaft box is with the hornplates off the boiler. I wonder therefore how best to proceed.  It looks like the 2nd shaft comes in kit 22?   Am I better off leaving the bolts a bit loose for adjustment later, noting it won't be possible to get them tightened up later, or drop the hornplates off again when lining up the 2nd shaft.  What was your experience of this?    What I don't want to is set everything up for the crank only to have to strip it down and do it again later.



Also I see the bolt head on the other side will clash with the oil pot if there is one - have I missed a discussion on this - do I need to modify or is this not a problem in the end after all.

 
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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 7:46 pm

Hi rob
Check my thread as I highlighted the bolts and Steve replyed.
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If you bolt from the inside the bolt head does not imped the oiler. Also the bolt length does not matter as nothing will bind on the outside.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 7:57 pm

Thanks Lynn

I'll put some 15mm in, I'm sure I have some in the workshop.

Did you have a problem with the alignment of the second shaft?
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Post  IanL on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 7:58 pm

Hi Rob,

The oiler used is a remote one so only have to screw on a small pipe fitting.

When I fitted the hornplates to the boiler I ended in loosening all the bolts on one side to give me a bit of room to manouver the hornplates onto the boiler. I only lined everything up once fitted to the boiler.

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Post  Robfishman on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:13 pm

Thanks Ian

Having just tried to move it I think I may end up taking one of the horn plates off for fitting.....boy its heavy, must be getting on for 55-60kg I recon.
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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:14 pm

Hi

I actually put one horn plate on to the boiler. then fitted everything to that almost tight. Then offered up the left hand horn plate and fitted both tubes in. With the crank alignment tool in place and using wood wedges to tweak the alignment everything went to gether very well.
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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:15 pm

No scratches or hernias.
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Post  Robfishman on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:18 pm

Quite, or crushed toes like this time last year, new years day in hospital not recommended.   lol!

If the weather is nice the week end may have it off the trolley and on its wheels by Monday  Very Happy
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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:29 pm



Excellent
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Post  the coleman on Thu 02 Jan 2014, 10:00 pm

Hi Rob
I fitted the bolts from the inside(loctite) and then cut the blots so they were flush with the with the outside of the hornplate.
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