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Post  lynnr on Tue 10 Apr 2012, 11:31 am

Steve Traill wrote:When I spoke to Steve some months ago he did say that the tender taps did let the side down and that when he gets a chance he would do something different. It is the only part on the whole engine that looks wrong and as this is a flagship product for STW I doubt if they will continue with the present 'Horses Willy' tender taps. I for one look forward to version II of the tender taps.

O Dear.

Just ordered new ones from Heritage supplies along with cylinder steam oil.

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Post  Robfishman on Tue 10 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm

They are out of stock of the 1/8" at the moment, but are due in later in the week.

I have also asked for the length of the 1/2" for the bowser drain tap.

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Post  Robfishman on Tue 10 Apr 2012, 3:36 pm

lynnr wrote:
Steve Traill wrote:When I spoke to Steve some months ago he did say that the tender taps did let the side down and that when he gets a chance he would do something different. It is the only part on the whole engine that looks wrong and as this is a flagship product for STW I doubt if they will continue with the present 'Horses Willy' tender taps. I for one look forward to version II of the tender taps.

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Just ordered new ones from Heritage supplies along with cylinder steam oil.

Have you ordered / got the back nuts as well?

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Post  lynnr on Wed 11 Apr 2012, 12:15 am

Robfishman wrote:
lynnr wrote:
Steve Traill wrote:When I spoke to Steve some months ago he did say that the tender taps did let the side down and that when he gets a chance he would do something different. It is the only part on the whole engine that looks wrong and as this is a flagship product for STW I doubt if they will continue with the present 'Horses Willy' tender taps. I for one look forward to version II of the tender taps.

O Dear.

Just ordered new ones from Heritage supplies along with cylinder steam oil.

Have you ordered / got the back nuts as well?

Hi Rob

Not yet. I have the 1/4" coming.

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Post  Robfishman on Wed 11 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm

Will be interesting to compare for scale. They are normally quite quick when in stock so yours will probably arrive first.

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Post  Robfishman on Wed 11 Apr 2012, 1:39 pm

Not a very good picture this as taken on the phone but I thought I would try a bit of lining tonight. Will now start the lining and gold leaf to the front end at the weekend if the weather is bad and I can't get the tender and belly tank sprayed.


First attempt at painting the lining. by Robert R&N, on Flickr

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Post  lynnr on Fri 13 Apr 2012, 12:34 am

Well those ramrod straight red lines look excellent. Nice and crisp. I can see the "quality bar" being raised again to a new dizzy height. I like the red. Nice and rich against the black. Is it 1shot?

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Post  Robfishman on Fri 13 Apr 2012, 12:45 am

Thanks Lynn, no I'm using Craftmaster's lining paints at the moment. The lining paints though don't keep a wet edge for long so you need to get the second coat on, and tapes off a bit quicker than with 1shot. (either that or where I did it in the house it was warmer than the studio the other week so it dried quicker)

Using Craftmaster it's the same paint system throughout and there will be no comparability problems. Which I have suffered from in past projects.

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Post  Robfishman on Fri 13 Apr 2012, 10:01 am

If anyone else is thinking of ordering the try cocks from Herritage Steam hold fire for a few days..... pale

Will update more once I have spoken to them, what I have seen today is not the same design I saw on the stand at GDSF which were perfect for the job.

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Post  sonick45 on Fri 13 Apr 2012, 10:33 am

Robfishman wrote:If anyone else is thinking of ordering the try cocks from Herritage Steam hold fire for a few days..... pale

Will update more once I have spoken to them, what I have seen today is not the same design I saw on the stand at GDSF which were perfect for the job.

I have the ones from Live steam models and they work well.
they are long enough to miss the brake bar when in use.
They also don't look out of scale although they are much bigger than the ones supplied from STW.

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Post  lynnr on Mon 16 Apr 2012, 1:38 am

sonick45 wrote:
Robfishman wrote:If anyone else is thinking of ordering the try cocks from Herritage Steam hold fire for a few days..... pale

Will update more once I have spoken to them, what I have seen today is not the same design I saw on the stand at GDSF which were perfect for the job.

I have the ones from Live steam models and they work well.
they are long enough to miss the brake bar when in use.
They also don't look out of scale although they are much bigger than the ones supplied from STW.

Nick


I have spoken with Heritage Steam. Taps are going back in the post tomorrow for a refund. They do not have anything else. The ones seen by others were supplied by a company now defunct.

Nick can you post a picture of your taps for reference please.

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live steam models Tender Try Cocks

Post  sonick45 on Mon 16 Apr 2012, 10:03 am

Already posted some pics.. click on link below.

http://traction.forumandco.com/t860-tender-try-cocks#5991

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Post  IanL on Mon 16 Apr 2012, 10:20 am

Well I am still waiting to receive tender try taps from STW as they were not available when the tender bits kit arrived last November, so will wait until I see what they send before thinking about alternatives.
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Post  Robfishman on Sun 22 Apr 2012, 1:17 pm

Lining out is very time consuming, but also very therapeutic. Its surprising just how many lines there are in even a simple detail. Not even half way through the perch, pivot and front axel and already 40 lines done.

Edit - Last count to complete these parts will need -

48 on axel. 8 done
12 on pivot. 12 done
12 on perch. 6 done
40 on front springs. 14 done but only 5 are acceptable, rest to be redone now I found the best way to produce them.

Plus the gold leaf over the imitation gold......Still plenty to do.


Lining out underway by Robert R&N, on Flickr 6568

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Post  lynnr on Mon 23 Apr 2012, 12:09 am

Looking very nice.

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Post  Robfishman on Sun 06 May 2012, 2:05 pm

After two weeks of nothing but holding a paint bursh the lining of the perch, pivot, and axel is now complete. Having painted each of the springs I decided I didn't like the effect, so they are back to the main engine colour.

Images to follow tomorrow when last few lines are dry and it's refixed to the smoke box. Also bumped into Miss Wizz and her father today at a very busy Twyford Waterworks with their engines, a lovely day and the rain stayed away. A few photos will follow shortly.

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 07 May 2012, 6:58 am

Images as promised below.


Front End Lining IMG_4237 by Robert R&N, on Flickr


Front End Lining IMG_4238 by Robert R&N, on Flickr


Front End Lining IMG_4239 by Robert R&N, on Flickr


Front End Lining IMG_4241 by Robert R&N, on Flickr


Front End Lining IMG_4242 by Robert R&N, on Flickr


Front End Lining IMG_4243 by Robert R&N, on Flickr

Next on the list is to finish off the tender and getring it ready for paint.

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Post  lynnr on Mon 07 May 2012, 8:05 am

Looking good. How long for the tender

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 07 May 2012, 9:30 am

lynnr wrote:Looking good. How long for the tender

Thanks Lynn

I think it may be a while, my other passion is Photography and I have my RPS images to prepare over the next few weeks so there won't be much time to spend on the build Crying or Very sad

However once done it will be all systems go and should take no more than a week or two to complete and to paint this and the top coat of the belly tank. After that its back out with the lining brushes to line both these and the bowser tank. Very Happy

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Post  Flasback on Mon 07 May 2012, 11:01 am

Hi Rob, is that yellow line not straight Crying or Very sad

Only joking, the lining and paint work look brill, I am sure you mentioned you were not too sure about the blue at first but the lining makes the blue the right choice for your engine. It will be a very impressive looking engine when finished, love the finish on the smoke box. The good thing about being behind is that you don't have to weight for kits.

take it easy

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 07 May 2012, 12:22 pm

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Thanks Dwain

You are correct the yellow line is not quite straight but close enough I don't think it will notice especially as its at the back of the axil....at least that's what I thought lol.

The lighter blue does work better than expected as they are only narrow I didn't think they would be visible. For anyone else using the Ex-Mayor blue the lighter blue i used is Craftmasters French Blue. I was also pleased with the finish on the smoke box, the chimney is the same and look great. However the little top extension is not so good and will be stripped and refinished later on. I damaged the paint fitting the copper cap and although I rubbed it down and refinished it I can see where it was. Sad

The paint used for this is really good and easy to apply. It's the black VHT paint from Frost, the only down side is every time I have gone to order a tin it's out of stock so it's either very popular or they only hold a small supply or both.

There are a few advantages to following up from behind, but like everyone we also have to sometimes wait for parts to come in for the kits, however we are able to juggle things a bit so for example we have had the tender and belly tank early, but am missing a rear wheel at the moment not that I mind as they do take up quire a bit of room in the house Very Happy

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Post  Flasback on Mon 07 May 2012, 1:00 pm

Rob,

I was only joking I could not see if the lines are straight or not. When I took my engine to the 3 greyhounds I was looking at all my mistakes and not one person noticed them till I was showing someone. Even then they said they were small. One of the guys told me if someone gets that close to your engine and picks up mistakes ask them to look closely at the injector or inside the smoke box and he would bet that they did not have an engine or could do the work themselves.

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Post  Robfishman on Mon 07 May 2012, 1:49 pm

lol! Don't worry Dwain I took it the way it was meant, you are right of course I, as you and I'm sure all other builders, know where the faults are on our builds but very few will ever spot them.


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Post  bjwlancashire on Tue 08 May 2012, 2:26 pm

Looking good Rob, finally an Ex-Mayor paint job has materialsed onto the forum and what a good one it is too.

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Post  Robfishman on Thu 31 May 2012, 12:31 pm

Looking forward to a good weekend so I can get top coat on the bowser tank (long storey) and belly tank on Saturday (bound to be raining sat Sun and Mon). Not sure the tender beading will be finished in time for top coat but will give it a good go.

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