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Wheel Balancing

Post  LilyJack on Tue 10 Aug 2010, 12:37 pm

Anyone know where I can get me wheels balanced? I'm just a bit worried that once I hit around 30mph I'll get sever wheel wobble Shocked

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Post  Vapor on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:35 am

At 30mph I would have thought wheel imbalance would have been the last thing to worry about Laughing , stopping it may be a tad more inportant Cool

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Post  LilyJack on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 9:45 am

hehehehe!!!! Laughing it's where you look down at the pressure gauge n it reads 50psi---100psi---BANG!!!!

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Post  craig@STW on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 10:34 am

LilyJack wrote:hehehehe!!!! Laughing it's where you look down at the pressure gauge n it reads 50psi---100psi--

at which point the safety valve opens and dumps six tones of crap all over your nice new shiny engine !!!!! affraid affraid affraid


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Post  BURRELL 4 on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 10:58 am

Hi Lilly Try Kwikfit or ATS Well I Was only Trying To Help Shocked Embarassed

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Post  Steve Traill on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 3:23 pm

Don't worry as wheel wobble wont kick in till you hit 45 - 55mph by which time you'll be busy enough trying to figure out how to unhook yourself from that transit van that was overtaking you. Road runs are great fun!!

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Post  LilyJack on Wed 11 Aug 2010, 10:53 pm

Road Run??? On a 2"??
Ya got more chance of the pope poppin in for a cuppa n crumpets Shocked

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Post  Steam Traction World on Thu 12 Aug 2010, 2:38 am

You can do a road run on a 2" engine.....just needs to be a very short road!

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Post  andyc on Thu 12 Aug 2010, 6:35 am

Got asked if i wanted to do the 7 mile road run at whissendine on a 2" minnie on strakes. Decided to decline the offer.

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Post  hughb on Thu 12 Aug 2010, 1:35 pm

Hi good thed BUT
Just one Question thing how much beer have you had on this thred ??

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Post  LilyJack on Fri 13 Aug 2010, 7:22 am

Aint had any beer but I'd need one to do a road run on a 2" straked engine Razz
That and a realllllllllllllllly soft seat hehe...

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Post  Mattyy on Sun 15 Aug 2010, 2:17 pm

why cant you do a road run on a 2" ? when i build mine ill go out on it... ill just take a barrell of water and a small bag of coal with me..... saying that.... ive only ever driven my friends grandads 3" showmans

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Post  LilyJack on Mon 16 Aug 2010, 5:16 am

Mat, lets just say that if you did a road run on a 2" straked engine, you'd need spanners to re-tighten every bolt , that an you'd have no problems with ya "nobbies" anymore hehehe... Laughing

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Re: Wheel Balancing

Post  Big Al on Mon 16 Aug 2010, 9:22 am

Has anyone tried going out on the 2" wagon that is being towed by the 2" engine. I tried Saturday and failed!

I don't confess to being slim and am 16 stone, I had a full water tank and not much else

When I fitted the water tank I positioned it not far off centre

I used the short tow bar that STW supplied after the long one.

The problem was that the engine wasn't powerful enough to pull us all along. The rear wheels dug in and lifted the front ones off the ground. My feet were on the rests which were pulled right back, if you fully extend them it severly restricts the turning circle! I found that if I moved back on the seat to take the weight off of the front of the wagon the engine reluctantly pulled me along. This was on tarmac flat road I should add.

The problem I think is the weight, over what are only bronze bearings in the front of the wagon, with a good percentage of 16stone pressing down on the front the friction is too great and the poor old engine cannot overcome it. I am thinking that there should be bearings in the axles as opposed to bushes to even out the friction.

Now you could take the piss and say I should lose weight (again), but having seen the size of some of you I wont be the only one having this problem. How's it going Hugh?

Any views?

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Post  andyc on Tue 17 Aug 2010, 1:23 am

Hi,

I can't see it being lack of power from the engine. Our 2" minnie will pull me and daughter number 1 ( which comes to a fair bit more than 16 stone ) quite easily. It will manage daughter no.2 aswell on nice flat ground.

Our driving truck is a converted 70 garden trolley with water storage etc under the seat. With ply and water containers etc it probably came to 130 at most.



Admittedly it hasn't got the nice scale appearance of other trucks but it suits our needs.

I have noticed than when i sit directly above the front axle the engine has to work harder. Is it a simple case of just moving your seat a bit further back or will the engine be out of reach then ?.

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Post  Big Al on Tue 17 Aug 2010, 5:14 am

Andy

If you put the seat further back you will be out of reach of the controls. STW provided a shorter towing bar as the original was too far from the engine. I have spoken to a few techie bods who reckon it may have something to do with the fact that the bearings are bronze inserts and there will be too much friction. Which is born out by the fact that as you move further back or take your feet off of the rests the engine is more willing to pull.

What are the bearings in your trolley? Are they ball races or roller bearings?


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Post  andyc on Tue 17 Aug 2010, 7:17 am

From memory they are roller bearings

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Post  Big Al on Thu 19 Aug 2010, 3:33 am

I have had another look at the problem and can now confirm it is an issue with weight (damn it)

When sitting on the seat with feet on the rests, my good lady could push me along, the minute I reached forward to operate the engine, my Centre of Gravity moved forward and the body fouled the front wheels and locked them up.

The problem is the second spar going across the body, with the suspension at its lowest, with all the weight on it, it doesn't bottom out before the tyre fouls the spar. I am going to cut out a groove in the spar about 3/8 deep to see if that will resolve the problem, this spar isn't a heavy weight bearing one, so shouldn't affect the structure.

The other issue is the turning circle is greatly reduced by the position of the foot rests, when fully withdrawn in their frame to the last 2 holes they prodtrude forward enough to xcause the rear wheels of the engine to foul the foot board.

I have spoken to Steve at STW who is going to set Craig on the problems when he returns from holiday who may resolve this problem before I get time to so watch this space.

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Post  craig@STW on Thu 19 Aug 2010, 2:16 pm

yeah, sounds like we need to look at this. im sure it wont be too hard to convert to bearings, if that's whats needed Cool

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Post  hughb on Fri 20 Aug 2010, 1:33 pm

Big Al wrote:
wont be the only one having this problem. How's it going Hugh?

Any views?

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HI HO YES WAS GOING WELL but I have been told not a prob at all ...Ho how do you know I am so big ???

Was it all in vaine Question Question ho bummer {more beers drunken }
I now have got my rubbers on the wheels I did bust a screwdriver in the proses... Razz Mad ....

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Post  LilyJack on Fri 20 Aug 2010, 2:26 pm


I now have got my rubbers on the wheels<<< Any Americans reading this will be curious on that comment hehehe... I did bust a screwdriver in the proses... Razz Mad ....
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Post  Big Al on Sun 22 Aug 2010, 12:53 am

I have started a section relating specifically to issues with the 2" wagon and continued my thread on there with a good result!!

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Post  hughb on Wed 25 Aug 2010, 1:25 pm

LilyJack wrote:
I now have got my rubbers on the wheels<<< Any Americans reading this will be curious on that comment hehehe... I did bust a screwdriver in the proses... Razz Mad ....
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Hi Yes got minen on and did bust a screwdriver Embarassed Mad but did get them on Razz .They are hung up for a 2 weaks

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