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4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Tue 08 Jun 2010, 10:53 am

starting to get material in for kit one of the 4inch wagon now.

the wheel rims are here (in a bit of a mess as we had to unload them by hand, bloody fork truck Evil or Very Mad )...



and billets have arrived for the hub parts Cool

we would really hope to get this first kit out this month. i'll let you know how things progress

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4" WAGON

Post  DavidH on Tue 15 Jun 2010, 12:34 pm

Do the wagon wheels have rubber tyres? If so, are they to be glued on as on the engine or is there any possibility of having them vulcanised before delivery??

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Sat 19 Jun 2010, 10:16 am

the first load if wheels are now wielded ready for drilling...



and the rubber is in for the tyres...



really not sure about vulcanised wheels David. we do have to send off the rear wheels for the Showman's soon so it may be possible BUT it will cause a delay to your kit.

i'll have to pester dean/steve for a decision Cool


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4" TRUCK WHEELS

Post  DavidH on Sat 19 Jun 2010, 10:25 am

A delay would not be a problem to me and it would be very nice to have them vulcanised.

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Mon 05 Jul 2010, 10:38 am

finally got the wheels on the mill today for drilling...



hubs, hub covers and centre caps are coming on well (photos tomorrow after drilling)

just waiting for all the laser cut spokes to arrive.

dean has been trying to get some competitive quotes for the wheel vulcanising but has just come up with "silly prices". Steve insists that the glued on rubber tyres are fine for the driving truck but if you really want to go with vulcanised i would suggest you contact the office direct Cool

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Wed 07 Jul 2010, 1:03 pm

hubs...



inner covers...



and outer covers now done...



spokes will be arriving soon

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To vulcanise or not to vulcanise?

Post  Steve Traill on Thu 08 Jul 2010, 5:38 am

I've had my traction wagon loaded up with coal, water & arm waving sprogs to the point when it could carry no more and the tyres are showing no signs of coming off. They were just glued on with Isoflex. Of the several wagons I know of out there I've not heard of a problem with tyres (unlike the back wheels of the engine!). I think the weight loadings are well within Isoflex's stickability ratings.

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  Steam Traction World on Thu 08 Jul 2010, 12:08 pm

Hi Steve

Sounds like you could do with another wagon? You can pull more than one, just think of all the pleasure you would bring to those arm waving sprogs. Oh and Dean when he takes your deposit. Laughing

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To Vulcanise or not?

Post  thehawk on Thu 08 Jul 2010, 12:57 pm

The rear wheels on the engine are driving power to the road via the tyres so good adhesion to the wheels is a big must as they carry not just the compressive load of the engine weight but also the drive force which is a shearing force. The tyres on the front wheels of the engine and those on the trailer are just carrying the the weight so are only under a compressive load (At least when going in a reasonably straight line).

I must say the vulcanised tyres look very nicely finished on the drive wheels, but at a cost. It was something like 150 as I remember.

So weighing things up, I am happy to get myself plastered in Isoflex to save a few quid on the trailer!

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Sun 11 Jul 2010, 11:01 am

spokes arrive on Friday. there are lots to do but it won't be long before we have enough done for a dispatch Cool


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More on tyres

Post  Steve Traill on Sun 11 Jul 2010, 2:21 pm

I have noticed that when the isoflexed rear tyres came off my engine (and another one) that both times we were on very narrow lanes with a lot of road camber. This makes me think that the whole weight of the back end was resting on the inner two tyres which are the ones that peeled off first. Also on each occasion it was a very hot day with high road temperatures and the tyres (after they had come off) were like rubber bands with the heat in them! I had done quite a few miles on ordinary (2 lane) roads with no problem and also the rally field (grass) presents little strain for the tyres. The situation is acedemic now anyway as all back wheels come vulcanised as standard on 4" engines.

Moral of the story is if you still have a Burrell with Isoflexed rear tyres, avoid very narrow lanes on hot days!

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Wed 14 Jul 2010, 11:30 am

making steady progress on this.

spokes counter sunk...



and bent..


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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Sat 17 Jul 2010, 1:11 am

rubber tyre material ready for cutting and joining...



hopefully this kit will be going out very soon. material is on order for kit 2

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Tyres

Post  Steve Traill on Sat 17 Jul 2010, 2:17 pm

Is it my imagination or is the tyre material thicker than on the original traction wagons? Perhaps we had low profile tyres for better cornering!

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Fri 23 Jul 2010, 1:17 pm

as far as i know the tyre material is the same stuff.

this kit should be going next week (if we can sort the dispatch will Isabel on holiday)

just waiting for the last of the hubs now...



everything else is ready to go...


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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Thu 29 Jul 2010, 12:24 pm

well all the work is done and the parts are in the boxes but... the rivet bolts that have been specially made to order have been delayed.

we should get them in another week and then the kit will go.

the good news is... work has already started on kit two.

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Mon 02 Aug 2010, 2:22 pm

this kit went out today Cool the fasteners arrived this morning and the kit was sealed and sent out Smile

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Wed 04 Aug 2010, 1:13 pm

quick photo of the control wheels, taken before the tires went on...


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Limited or Not?

Post  lynnr on Sun 29 Aug 2010, 11:33 am

Having looked at the 4" wagon product page. I am a bit worried that it is limited?
Will they still be available in 3 years time when I would be wanting to buy at least 1 most probabily 2 with a water bowser.

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  craig@STW on Sun 29 Aug 2010, 12:08 pm

hard to say at the moment. it is a bit of a slow seller and we have plenty left at the moment. Neutral

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Re: 4 inch Burrell driving truck kit one

Post  Steam Traction World on Sun 29 Aug 2010, 1:10 pm

Lynn,

The wagon we are currently manufacturing is really an agricultural wagon and not ideally suited to the Road Loco / Showman's engine. We do intend to release a batch of wagons that were specifically for these somewhere near the end of the build, so no need to panic.

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Post  lynnr on Sun 29 Aug 2010, 1:24 pm

Excellent. You sure know how to talk sweetly. Wink

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