Colours of lining on President

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Colours of lining on President

Post  highpressure on Wed 07 Apr 2010, 12:11 pm

I've searched the forum because I'm sure this has been answered before but can someone tell me what the offical colours are for the lining of The President or at least the closest match One Shot do or an equivalent?
I will be starting the tender when I get back from hols in a few weeks and want to get the stock in.

Thanks Kev.

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  sonick45 on Thu 08 Apr 2010, 2:39 am

using one shot enamel

imitation gold
bright red
chrome yellow.

The yellow looks really bright against the gold but it does on the real one too.

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  highpressure on Thu 08 Apr 2010, 10:06 am

Thanks Nick I had actually found the message I was looking for too, it ws a PM not a post. However can you confirm which way round the yellows are?, Is it Crome Yellow on the Red and the thin line as Imitation Gold or vice versa?

Cheers Kev.

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  sonick45 on Thu 08 Apr 2010, 11:05 am

The thick yellow line in gold the thin is yellow..

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Post  Watts&Son on Fri 16 Apr 2010, 12:07 pm

Hi, does anyone know the colour of the footplate and the inside of the bunker it looks the same colour as the inside of the roof,thanks David

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  Tim Watson on Fri 16 Apr 2010, 1:11 pm

Burrells were often painted red on the footplate (Alfa red is a good match): the same colour as the painted parts of the motion. It's not the most practical colour, however. The inside of the roof was normally painted eau de nil, a green colour. President may of course be different in preservation.
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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  sonick45 on Sat 17 Apr 2010, 1:55 am

I have experimented with various colours to see which one matches 'The President'. The Paint job on this engine isn't a Burrell standard which causes some colour matching issues when trying to copy it.

All the below paints are One Shot Lining Enamel from http://www.pinstripinguk.com

I tried Vermillion - Way to Orange and clashes with the red I have used on the rest of the engine (Bright Red) which is a dark red similar to Craftmasters Alpha Red.

I also tried Fire Red but this was still to Orange.

I have studied loads of photos and used photo shop to compare the reds.

At the moment it looks like i'll be using the same red i used to line the engine. (Bright red) Silly name really as it's not bright !!!!
It's a darkish tone and doesn't shout at you. Because the main colour is Black, light colours really stand out.

I have found that when you take photos of the tender the camera distorts the colours and therefore you don't get a good reflection of what the colours actually are. I have come to the conclusion that the red used on the tender and motion is the same as the red used to line.
what i have found is the colour is very close to the one used on the lines. The problem with the photos is finding one with tender and lines with the same quality of light source so you can make a good comparison.

The image below is the best one i have found which shows the line under the fly wheel brake handle and the handle colour close together.
They are a near match.



Of course some may disagree but I think it is simply finding a colour your happy to live with and looks good in scale.


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Colour balance and taking picture of pain schemes

Post  lynnr on Tue 17 Aug 2010, 7:59 am

Hi

If your camera has the ability to set manual white balance this is best used when wanting to get "colour" information.
Use an A4 sheet of white paper and defocus the camera on it before setting white balance or use a 18% gray card.
Most compacts have a manual white balance and do not handle large areas of solid colour very well using the in camera automatics.

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Post  tractor mike on Sun 19 Feb 2012, 10:21 am

can someone please tell me what the colours on the wheels are is it gold thick line and a bright red or thick yellow line and what red, thank u

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  Adam Brown on Sun 19 Feb 2012, 10:33 am

On seeing this thread I wonder if the following CAD drawings are of any use? They are from when we were modeling President at Midsummer Models.








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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  Robfishman on Sun 19 Feb 2012, 1:23 pm

Adam Brown wrote:On seeing this thread I wonder if the following CAD drawings are of any use? They are from when we were modeling President at Midsummer Models.

Haha sorted it, the links are -

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/picture.php?albumid=169&pictureid=2114

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/picture.php?albumid=169&pictureid=2115

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/picture.php?albumid=169&pictureid=2116

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/picture.php?albumid=169&pictureid=2113

but you need to sign in to that forum to view.

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  Adam Brown on Sun 19 Feb 2012, 1:32 pm

Oh sod it Embarassed

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Re: Colours of lining on President

Post  Robfishman on Sun 19 Feb 2012, 1:34 pm

Adam Brown wrote:Oh sod it Embarassed

.......and there was me about to delete my post now the images appeared, and no one would be any the wiser. Now it wont let me.

I imagine most of us have seen the Midsummer Models engine models, but is anyone hasn't they are well worth looking at, the detail is great, and if your building a replica of one of the engines modeled it would sit much better on the mantel piece than the 4" will.
lol!

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