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Post  sonick45 on Wed 10 Mar 2010, 8:38 am

Hi Guys,

if this has been asked before then i apologise.

You will already be familiar with Tim's water cart/seat which is a great way of getting around the weight issue on the rear axle and the steering problems this can cause.

I have seen some really inventive solutions to this problem over the years and while i have been following the design of your 2" wagon I have searched for some plans for a 4" water bowser to convert into a sit on trailer. The construction is very much like Tim's, simple but strong.

I think the idea is brilliant as it not only serves as an extra water supply but it pulls the owner taking huge strain off the axles.

It also makes the engine look much better as you don't have the brackets hanging off the back of the tender.

If there was enough interest would you consider running a small batch?

The only reason I ask is the company that supply the plans will only supply the parts in raw unmachined form and i don't have the abilities or machinery to hand to finish.

There is clearly a market for 4" engine owners looking for an easy solution the enginemen at is an off the shelf DIY assembly kit.

What do you think?

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Post  DavidH on Wed 10 Mar 2010, 2:43 pm

Sounds interesting. Who are the company that supplies the drawings and unmachined parts?

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Post  sonick45 on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 1:45 am


Length (overall) 45
Height (overall) 32
Width (overall) 23 1/8

DavidH wrote:Sounds interesting. Who are the company that supplies the drawings and unmachined parts?

DavidH


John Rex Model Engineers..

If there is someone on here who fancies making one and modifying it by fitting a seat I would be more than happy to
supply you with the parts and pay you for your time and effort.


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Post  Vapor on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 3:45 am

That cart would look better with a horse in front of it Very Happy

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Post  Admin on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 5:49 am

Hi,

Tim's version of the bowser is much nicer. It's not a great photo but below is a picture of it attached to Tim's Engine.

We will do a batch, as a kit, if enough people want it. Our's will also include the seat. At a guess it'll cost around 750.00 give or take a little.

If we have a sudden rush then it could be my first design project Very Happy Very Happy , fitted in somewhere around my 6" Burrell.

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Post  Steel Steam on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 6:32 am

Hi Dean,

Please put my name on the list for a water bowser/seat.

Thanks,

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Post  sonick45 on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 8:32 am

Add me to the list

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Post  miller on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 9:20 am

Admin wrote:If we have a sudden rush then it could be my first design project Very Happy Very Happy , fitted in somewhere around my 6" Burrell.

let's hope your "Scale skills" improve a bit first then. remember to change ALL the figures on the drawings in the future Rolling Eyes Wink

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Post  Waterways on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 10:34 am

count me in for one

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Post  Rickster on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm

Hi Dean,

Can you please put my name down also. Can you include an tow hitch option to attach your wagon if required to haul the kids/coal about if required - can't see from the photo's if this would be in the kit or not.

cheers

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Post  sonick45 on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 12:46 pm

Rickster wrote:Hi Dean,

Can you please put my name down also. Can you include an tow hitch option to attach your wagon if required to haul the kids/coal about if required - can't see from the photo's if this would be in the kit or not.

cheers

Rick

Rick, if my memory serves me well Tim towed his water bowser plus two wagons with Dean on one to a local pub back in the summer at the Bedford show. There is a video on here somewhere of it...

I'm sure they'll not forget. but rightly so best to ask anyway...

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Post  sonick45 on Thu 11 Mar 2010, 1:15 pm

Here is the link to the road run i mentioned.

road run

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Post  sonick45 on Mon 15 Mar 2010, 10:07 am

Dean,

trusting you design skills!?
what's a reasonable number for you to consider designing and putting into production?

There are 4 at the mo.

Anyone else interested. ??


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Post  tef 20 on Mon 15 Mar 2010, 10:46 am

I might be dependent on the price! i am currently on bread and water for a few months as owning/building two engines is bleeding me dry Crying or Very sad roll on when i get them both in steam Very Happy


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Post  highpressure on Mon 15 Mar 2010, 11:30 am

Add me to the list of potential purchasers, although ideally it would need to be able to be collapsed a bit to get it in the trailer once the engines in etc.

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Post  Steam Traction World on Tue 16 Mar 2010, 6:45 am

I'm sure if we get firm commitment of around 10 we'd do a small batch.

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Post  RogerD on Wed 17 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm

Dean,

Please count me in as a prospective purchaser. Should look really good with my new waggon (and just out of interest, when might these start tripping off the production line?)

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Post  owls-4-ever on Thu 18 Mar 2010, 12:33 am

Count me in for one.

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Post  Steam Traction World on Thu 18 Mar 2010, 3:04 am

Kit 1 of the Traction Wagon is planned to go out at the end of April.

As the interest in the Water Bowser is gathering pace nicely i'm happy to say that i am almost certain we will manufacture a small batch. Watch this space.

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Post  prince of wales on Tue 23 Mar 2010, 2:32 am

I'd be interested too

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Post  Waterways on Sun 02 May 2010, 12:42 am

Hi

Any News? Trying to deside whether to fit the seat under the bunker, what would the time scale if you were to go ahead.

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Post  miller on Thu 06 May 2010, 5:07 am

i can confirm that steve is working on the design NOW. i'll post some images and an estimate on production once he's done.

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Post  sonick45 on Tue 25 May 2010, 12:16 pm

Craig,

Any news on Steve's design.
Some pictures would be nice.

Also cost and time scales.

cheers

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Post  craig@STW on Tue 25 May 2010, 1:14 pm

yeah, i asked him if i could post images and he said it wasn't ready, but that was a couple of weeks ago. i'll have to chase him on it tomorrow, thanks for reminding me Cool

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Post  sonick45 on Thu 03 Jun 2010, 10:25 am

Craig,

Did you get around to asking steve about the design and cost?

I see STW are now offering a 2" showmans but what of the trailer we all so readily showed interest in all those months back...


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