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4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  Steam Traction World on Sun 22 Mar - 15:58

Hi All,

In previous posts we have given some technical information and some anticipated pricing. We have now made a firm decision on the initial price and kit contents.

The 4" Burrell Double Compound Agricultural Engine will consist of 29 Kits.
The 4" Burrell Road Loco will consist of 30 kits.
The 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans Engine will consist of 33 kits.

We have reduced the deposit from the anticipated price down to 899.00 with each of the kits costing 600.00. The first 10 orders will receive an 'early bird' discount of a further 300.00 off the deposit reducing this to 599.00.

In summary the 'early bird' price for each engine will be:

The 4" Burrell Double Compound Agricultural Engine:
Deposit 599.00, 29 kits@600 = 17400. Total 17999.

The 4" Burrell Road Loco:
Deposit 599.00, 30 kits@600 = 18000 Total 18599.

The 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans Engine:
Deposit 599.00, 33 kits@600 = 19800. Total 20399.

The kit contents for each of the engines will be as follows:

Kit 1: Front Wheels
Kit 2: Axle, Perch, Pivot & Spring
Kit 3: Smokebox
Kit 3A: Showmans Dynamo Extention (Showmans engine only)
Kit 4: Rear Wheel
Kit 5: Rear Wheel
Kit 6: Boiler Deposit
Kit 7: Tender Body
Kit 8: Tender Fittings
Kit 9: Hornplates & Spec Plates
Kit 10: Bearings, Rear Axle & 2nd Shaft
Kit 11: Cylinder Casting
Kit 12: Cylinder Machining
Kit 13: Cylinder Covers, Pistons, Glands, Slide Valves etc
Kit 14: Boiler
Kit 15: Boiler
Kit 16: Cleading
Kit 17: Belly Tank
Kit 18: Steering & Belly Tank Fittings
Kit 19: Crank & Eccentrics
Kit 20: Weighshaft, Con Rod & Eccentrics
Kit 21: Valve Gear
Kit 22: Crank Gears, Diff & 2nd Shaft Gears
Kit 23: Drive Gears & Winch
Kit 24: Gear Guards, Gear Change & Flywheel
Kit 25: Waterpump & Drives, Clacks
Kit 26: Water Fittings
Kit 27: Other Fittings
Kit 28: Blast Pipe, Safety Valves, Lifter & Pipes
Kit 29: Governor & Misc
Kit 30: Roof (Showmans & Road Loco only)
Kit 31: Roof Supports & Brass Work (Showmans Only)
Kit 32: Dynamo, Exciter & Exciter Platform (Showmans Only)

Hopefully you will have noticed that we have made some changes to the website and started to add some of the new range we have planned. We intend to update it again shortly and will start advertising these engines in the next magazine issues that are available. The interest from the forum users alone has already given us the confidence that a good size production run is achievable.

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Dean & Steve.

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Road Loco version

Post  sonick45 on Tue 31 Mar - 18:29

Hi Dean & Steve, Cool

Just a few questions regarding the different versions.

1. Will the road loco version be convertible back to a showman's specification should people wish to do so?
Personally I won't otherwise i'd of gone for the showman's in the first place.

2. The reason for question 1 is this :

It you look at the photo of lady Jane (4" Burrell Road Loco) she is basically a scenic with the showmans fittings removed.
As you can see the smokebox is longer on a scenic than a standard Burrell Road Loco and as a result it looks very stretched between the cylinder block and the smokebox having had to make room for the exciter. Will you be providing a shortened smokebox or boiler with the road loco version to provide a better look similar to the picture attached of Burrell RL The President which also started it's life as a showman's or will you be leaving as it as is which looks like a showman's that's lost it's generating capabilities?
Just a thought.





Curious to know as I don't have the necessary equipment to carry out this chop at home and I feel that it look sslightly strange in proportion without the changes to teh smokebox and boiler length.
On the other hand I may be sticking my oar in too late as you may have already got this in hand.Idea

Can't wait till the Autumn.....Smile

Nick
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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  Steam Traction World on Fri 3 Apr - 19:56

Hi Nick

The Road Loco will certainly have a shorter boiler, and it will probably have the slightly shorter smokebox. It would be possible to convert the Road Loco into a Showmans but it wouldn't be a Scenic. Unless you specified that you wanted a long boiler and smokebox! Evil or Very Mad

It's early days yet, but they do seem to be attracting a lot of attention. The Road Loco seems to be more popular than the Showmans and no one has yet asked about an Agricultural version.

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  sonick45 on Sun 5 Apr - 4:19

I don't know what others look for when choosing a model ( it would be interesting to know) but there were defilnely several questions that had to be answered which as a result ended up with me choosing something other than a showman's.

They are the ultimate model however in my opinion they do come with some achilles heels...

The size, even for a 4" is big.. I'd have to extend my engine shed to store one.
Most of the viewing of models is from above thus you end up looking at a lovely big canopy most of teh time with an engine hiding underneath.
Practicability for maintenance and accesability to the moving parts is restricted.
You loose out on the enjoyment of watching the motion as the canopy gets in the way.

All this coupled with the extra cost means that the Road Loco is a dam good compramise as it's still got all the impressive looks of a big powerful engine and you get to admire the moving parts as you can see the motion from above.

It may be early days but I can't wait to get out on the show ground with a STW RL. Laughing

I'm sure you will but keep us al updated with progress however small...
Any news is exciting to read.

Nick

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  tef 20 on Sun 5 Apr - 15:42

I agree with what nick is saying. I would love a showmans put the canopy would get in the way and make driving hard and hide most of the motion work which is why i to think the RL would be the best of the three options.
I would love to get one and i know i have room for one put cant deside wether to finish the burrell and foden and save a bit and get a 6" RL or just get the 4" RL. I have room for either a 4" or 6" but i know a 6" would be harder to take around where as the 4" will still go in the back of a van with ease.
It would be interesting to see the dimensions of the 4"RL to see how much bigger than the 4" agri i already have.

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  stewart on Tue 7 Apr - 16:53

Is there any sort of price worked out for the boiler yet? Very Happy

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  Steam Traction World on Tue 7 Apr - 21:17

Hi All

Interesting question. Why would you want to know the price of just the boiler?

To answer Marks question about the length of the road loco a quick calculation shows that it will be about 73" long. I'll confirm that as I do more of the design.

Quite a few years ago I started building a 6" scenic. I was getting on quite well with it until I had a drive of Snapdragon built by Rod Dix. It was dreadful Sad . Not Rod's building, it was (still is) a great model, but what a pig to drive. I sold my engine without finishing it Mad

A couple of year after I started building the Chain Track. Now there's an easy engine to drive affraid

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  tef 20 on Tue 7 Apr - 21:50

Cheers Steve i will keep my eye open for updates.
so are you saying we shouldnt buy your 4" scenic then as it will be dreadfull to drive??? Laughing
Cheers
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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  Steam Traction World on Tue 7 Apr - 22:13

Hi Mark

Ahh, perhaps I should have thought through that comment a bit more Embarassed No, it's okay, a 6" version is a pig to drive, our 4" one will be a delight Twisted Evil

Anyway, most of the time they're left steaming on their own whilst their owners are steaming in the beer tent Laughing

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  tef 20 on Tue 7 Apr - 22:24

Like you were when you wrote the pig to drive comment Very Happy Steaming that is Laughing



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Post  Steam Traction World on Tue 7 Apr - 22:34

I find alcohol (in moderation) lubricates my creative ability. No

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Post  stewart on Wed 8 Apr - 16:32

Wanted to know the price of the boiler because its going to be the most expensive part of the build!! Just so i can set money aside for it Very Happy

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  Steam Traction World on Wed 8 Apr - 16:50

Hi Stewart,

One of the advantages about signing up to a STW build is that the monthly kit price remains consistant. This means that the boiler will still be priced the same as every other kit at 600.00, only difference is the boiler will be spread over three installments. Should it be available seperately from us it would be much more expensive than the three kit payments.

We do not have any plans currently to make any of the new products available to purchase as individual items until they have been completed.

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  hughb on Wed 8 Apr - 18:40

Ok this has had a lot as for me I do like the tractor so I will say GGOODD luck to all involved

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Re: 4" Burrell Scenic Showmans / Road Loco / Agricultural Engine Firm Pricing

Post  stewart on Wed 8 Apr - 19:13

I hope that it will eventually be avalible in the flexable payment plan as i will be able to fit it in around my other comitments Crying or Very sad

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