Lynn Robinson. 4" traction Wagon. Twins. "Mara" and "Uisge"

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Post  lynnr on Wed 24 Jul 2013, 12:16 am

No picture from last night but the wheels are in primer. Gone with a zinc loaded primer to see how it goes. I hope to get top coat on tonight and possibly a second coat on tomorrow.


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Post  lynnr on Fri 26 Jul 2013, 11:29 am

Wheels in top coat


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Post  Tony King on Sun 28 Jul 2013, 1:40 am

You've been busy Lynn..... Looking good!!
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Post  lynnr on Sun 11 Aug 2013, 8:22 am

Back from holidays. So spent the day working on the wagons. Getting them finished enough for next weekend steam Rally at Crathes

Turntable



Second one almost attached



Getting there on the first



One almost finished. Not done the brakes but ready for next weekends rally.



Both ready for next week.




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Post  showman shane on Sun 11 Aug 2013, 1:36 pm

Hi Lynn, The wagons look awesome. With two wagons and a water bowser hitched I was wondering what your backing skills are like? Mine will be strictly one way-forward. I would be grateful if you could advise the external dimensions of the wagons and water bowser including height. I am looking at purchasing a custom made box trailer and want to make sure the "ensemble" will fit. Cheers Shane

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Post  lynnr on Sun 11 Aug 2013, 1:50 pm

Hi Shane

I will look in the tech pack tomorrow for you.

My trailer bed is 10x5.5 ft as this is the minimal size to fit the engine with the wagons beside her. The water bowser will sit in one of the wagons for transport. In our winter I will be adding anchor points to the axial bars and use the turnbuckles like on the main engine. Makes loading and unloading much quicker and solid.

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Post  lynnr on Sat 17 Aug 2013, 3:22 pm

Every things fit in an iffor lt105 2.7 tome capacity. 10 ft by 5.5.
Engine as about 8'8" 42" wide I think. The trailers I forgot the. But I do have the sizes of thinks from the production sheets.

I will try any get pictures. Everything in a ifor. LT105 10x5.5









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Post  lynnr on Mon 19 Aug 2013, 9:57 am

Few more pictures of the wagons.











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Post  lynnr on Tue 20 Aug 2013, 1:41 pm

As requested. Wagon dimensions

Length excluding drawbar 1400
Width 700
Height 620

Wheel tack width 590
Wheelbase 745

For transport you can turn the drawbar inward so it is under the wagon.

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Post  showman shane on Wed 21 Aug 2013, 12:43 am

Thankyou Lynn.The measurements are different to the specifications on STW website so have been a big help.The photos of your wagons and water bowser behind your engine look very cool-congratulations.

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Post  lynnr on Wed 21 Aug 2013, 5:00 am

No worries Shane

For note. The road/showman loco will fit on a 10x5.5 ft trailer bed with sides. Clearance is less than 1" shared between the sides.

I use an Ifor Williams LM105 for transporting the engine, 2 wagons and a water bowser. The bowser lashes into one of the wagons for transport as the balance point for the engine does not allow it to fit on the bed either in front or behind the engine. I then balance the weight side to side by adding coal under the back of the wagons. If I use more coal than I went with I ballast the rear with the fresh water barrel filled instead of empty.

Unfortunately I did forget to take pictures with everything loaded up Shocked 

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Post  lynnr on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 7:34 am

Been trying the stencil work on the wagon









Don't know why photobucket did not get them the correct way up.

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Post  lynnr on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 8:21 pm

The wagons earning some money for Scottish Model Engineering Trust at their railway down near Perth


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Post  lynnr on Tue 10 Sep 2013, 8:07 am

Hi All

Forgot to mention. The hangers for the brake bar need welding up as I have noticed they splay out if there is any force put on the brake shoes if the wagon is pushed forward with the brakes on.

If anyone wants them done and do not have a friendly welder or their own kit. Give me a shout and post them.

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Post  lynnr on Thu 19 Sep 2013, 12:58 am

Gosh!

Created a new photobucket account to handle the extra traffic and to stop the bandwidth warnings. My second account can't even last a month before hitting 10G download limit.

Over the next few evenings I am going to reorganise the photo storage to get away from limits.

Normal service will resume soon.

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Post  lynnr on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 10:31 am

Put the brakes on the two wagons


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Post  lynnr on Fri 11 Oct 2013, 11:26 pm

Need to find a bit of stainless steel rod and see if I can turn down new pins for the wagons. The split pins look a bit "unfinished" for holding the sides up.

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Post  Tony King on Sat 12 Oct 2013, 12:51 am

Hiya Lynn,
I've been doing a bit to my wagons over the last two days, & have got the first one pretty much assembled now!! I've got sore fingers having cut & "dressed" all the bolts on the grinder, that hold the planks on!!
When I tried to move one wagon by lifting it, all the leaf springs dropped out of their hangers, so the question is, what have you done with yours to stop this happening?
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Post  lynnr on Sat 12 Oct 2013, 1:28 am

Hi Tony.

On the first wagon. I did not know about the issue, btw Steam Traction World is aware. On the second I moved the rear crossmember in 10mm for the rear springs. So far my front springs have not fallen.

So when I stack I makes sure it is the modified one that is lifted. Over the winter I plan to investigate the hangers and see what local modification could be done to stop the drop. I have considered a check strap, like used in rally. Fitted between the chassis and axil and limits the drop. Should be able to do it with 3mm high flex wire rope thimbled either end and discreetly attached. Also hide them inside of the bump stops.

Also while they are stacked for storage. I put wood blocks between the axil and chassis on the lower wagon to take the weight off it. So the springs don't sag under the long term load.

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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Apr 2015, 5:18 am

Hi All

Well the snow has gone, for the moment. The sun is out, sort of. Its time for a bit of TLC on Uisge and Mara.

Mini overhaul so to speak. Uisge getting the treatment first.



She is feeling a bit wheeless.





Her springs have been cleaned and now being repainted.

Primer


Top coat. Satin black. Why? It is in stock on the shelf.



Oh by the way water bowser. It will be your turn for a bath once Mara and Uisge are finished.

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Post  lynnr on Thu 02 Apr 2015, 6:47 am

Uisge is feeling happier.



Springs looking better.


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Post  lynnr on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:14 am

Nara doing some work. Collecting kindling for Crystal. 


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Post  lynnr on Sun 07 Jun 2015, 1:31 pm

More kindling. 


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Post  the coleman on Mon 08 Jun 2015, 11:21 am

Hi Lynn please could tell me the internal measurements of the wagon..
Thanks
Andy..

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