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Re: Today's progress

Post  Brian M on Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:22 am

I would not worry about the air leaks, mine fizzy up to 60 psi or so then seals.

On the injector issue, you may have a bit of dirt inside your cone (I know I did), which is a simple fix (just unscrew the plug at the bottom of the injector and drop the cone).

Engine looks good, well done on completing the build (just need to light a fire in it)  Very Happy .

ATB,

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Post  simonbos on Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:54 am

Thanks for the replies regarding the air leaks.
Have had a bit of a disaster today - was running engine on tickover on air only for a couple of minutes to make sure I had cured the whistle leak which I had and now the water pump ram has seized in the body.
Managed to pull it out about 1" by using flywheel but now unable to get it right out but I have a cunning plan by bolting the pump to a piece of 100 x 12 steel and welding a lug onto this so I can pull it out with two bolts on the rod that connects to the eccentric. However am worried what damage I have done to the internal brass bore. The ram was oiled up so I don't know why it has seized - what lubricates this ram? Originally thought that the countersunk screw that holds the rod to the ram had come undone but that is ok.
Will know the truth tomorrow once I've managed to pull it apart.
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Post  Kevster on Sun 12 Jan 2014, 3:11 pm

Engine looks great Simon,

Maybe the pump is misaligned or could it be some packing has somehow wedged itself and held the ram tight.

Were all the fixings done up nice and tight?

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Post  simonbos on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 8:53 am

Hi all
Lit the first fire in the engine this morning assisted by Andy Fletcher and my father. After a slow start we eventually got up to 40 psi but the water gauge was leaking so much we couldn't see how much water was in the boiler so had to drop the fire as we didn't seem to be able to get water into it via the steam pump or injector. Slackened the nut off on the copper pipe below the left hand clack valve and water appeared to be coming out ok so don't know why it wasn't going into boiler - has anybody got any ideas or should I take the clack valve apart to investigate? Had various other leaks which hope I have sorted this afternoon. Now looking forward to next steaming.
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Post  simonbos on Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:33 am

What a great morning!
Finally got the water pump working ok and have been happily steaming around the yard for a couple of hours. Not sure if the injector is working - will persevere at the next steaming. I really feel as though I'm finally getting somewhere now and have learned an awful lot today regarding how to get the fire going, getting water into the boiler and not to let the fire go down otherwise you have a long wait to build up the pressure again. This morning's steam up has given me a lot of confidence in running the engine. The next problem is that I will have to redesign my seating arrangements as it is so uncomfortable - every time you go over a bump it traps your legs/knees and bruises them.
The blower works really well in pulling the pressure up. Got up to 120 psi again but the safety valve still didn't blow off so will have to remove again and slacken spring off another quarter turn.
Only 8 weeks to go until my first rally and am wondering if I'll get my steam certificate in time. Still several little problems/leaks to rectify.
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Post  Robfishman on Mon 17 Mar 2014, 4:47 am

Was just thinking what a great seat, then read your post, hopefully it can be easily modified.

The Engine looks great, you must be very please with finish, another lovely engine.

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Post  highpressure on Mon 17 Mar 2014, 6:48 am

Steam Certs, use Peter Hawkins, he will travel to you, very freindly guy and you WILL get a pass, he is there to help you get through and its no use to him if you fail, besides which on a new engine unless your pumps etc fail there is no reason it will fail. He will travel to you although he is local to me, he did Ricksters in Kent and has loads of customers all over. If you have insurance in place which you can organise before the test then at a rally if you produce the insurance ( RTA and liability ) and the boiler cert he sends you then they will let you steam. If you use Walker Midgely for insurance and send them a copy of the boiler test they will send you a NTET disc by return of post.

The more you steam the better it gets, Andy will confirm the first steaming was horrid, leaks everywhere, things not working, things clashing, the second one much less fraught and much fewer problems. After the test this Saturday we steamed for about 5 hours driving about all over with virtually no problems at all. A little bit stiff on the steering but that will wear in, the regulator needs the mod but things like the leaking gauge glass and blow down cocks had sealed themselves up totally.

I see your in Essex, my first 4" "Prince" went to Suffolk, a really nice guy named Clive, very keen to get into steam, you may well bump into him at a do somewhere in that neck of the woods.

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Re: Today's progress

Post  simonbos on Mon 17 Mar 2014, 1:59 pm

highpressure
Many thanks for all your recent help. That's what I really appreciate about this forum - always somebody to help you with a problem and plenty of friendly advice.
Regards,
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Post  simonbos on Tue 15 Apr 2014, 11:11 am

After several steamings over the last few weeks have got everything working ok apart from the injector. Needed two new globe valves on steam head to cure steam leaks and several hits with a hammer on the clack valve balls to get them to seat properly. However today took the injector to Terry Baxter for checking to discover that it was a high pressure one - Terry simply drilled it out to make it lower pressure and tested it successfully for me. Will now fit it back on engine and fingers crossed all will work as it should. Terry is such a knowledgeable and helpful man. Am now going to get the boiler inspector in so hopefully get the paperwork for my first rally on 18th May.
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Post  simonbos on Tue 15 Apr 2014, 12:20 pm

Something that has just occurred to me after reading what's involved in the steam test is would a pressure gauge with the red line marked at 140 psi be a failure when the working pressure of the boiler is 120 psi? The safety valve now blows off at about 110 psi. Do I need to get another pressure gauge marked correctly? Any advice gratefully received before I book the boiler inspector. Thanks, simon

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Post  Tim Watson on Tue 15 Apr 2014, 12:31 pm

Simon
The red line has to be at the working pressure of the boiler. You are allowed 10% either way. Better to get the engine up to 120 psi on the safety valves before your test (quarter-half a turn on the nut should do it). The engine will be happier and much more powerful at 120 psi rather than 110.

Good luck with the test when you do it.
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Post  simonbos on Tue 15 Apr 2014, 1:05 pm

Tim, many thanks for that. Better phone Steve tomorrow to get the correct gauge.
Regards, simon

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Post  simonbos on Thu 24 Apr 2014, 11:00 am

Finally had my steam test today with Peter Hawkins and IT PASSED. Peter is extremely helpful and the test was a lot easier than I was expecting.
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Post  highpressure on Fri 25 Apr 2014, 2:26 am

Congrats. Peter is fast becoming the tester of choice. Funnily enough he lives about 15 minuites east of me and is the sole reason I am in the steam movement today. When he moved into his present place I was the guy who put his aerial on the roof. Having had an interest in all things mechanical and steam I was intrigued by his place with lots of bits here and there and then he showed me the componenets for the batch 1 4" agricultural he was building. That was back in the days of Modelworks but even then the engineering standard looked good to me and it has improved no end. I buggered about for 6 months looking at various very small engines and then finally bought a Maxitrak 3" A & P. After a couple of seasons with that I finally got serious and went for the Burrell which eventually morphed into the R/L.

Anyone thinking of getting a test you wont go far wrong with Peter and he has no problems with travel at all.

Enjoy the engine, now the fun and learning really begins....  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 

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Post  Rickster on Fri 25 Apr 2014, 11:29 am

I'll second that from Highpressure about Peter Hawkins, ever helpful with loads and loads of useful advice, always willing and supportive - can't advocate him enough if you want your boiler tested, he's your man. Solved my water pump not pumping efficiently problem in minutes.


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Post  simonbos on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 11:33 am

Had my steam test Thursday morning - posted insurance proposal form and boiler inspectors report to Walker Midgley that afternoon. Saturday morning my NTET disc arrived - what incredible service - makes a nice change these days.
Also asked Lynn to make me up a fictitious registration number stencil for the front of the engine as I am not intending to take the engine on the road at present and thought an old registration number would look more authentic. Within a few hours Lynn has made it and it's in the post - again incredible service. Thanks to all these efficient people.
Will post a picture of registration number once mounted on engine.
My plans for the future are to have the engine working a threshing machine together with elevator, water cart and living van. Don't know how long this outfit will be but I'm going to need a big trailer!
Simon

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Post  simonbos on Thu 01 May 2014, 11:38 am

Photo of registration no. At least I've got no excuses for forgetting the wife's birthday now. Sprayed through Lynn's stencil with white radiator enamel in the hope that it will cope with the heat from the chimney.
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Post  lynnr on Thu 01 May 2014, 12:30 pm

Looking lovely.

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Post  Kevster on Thu 01 May 2014, 10:51 pm

Looks great

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Post  simonbos on Sat 17 May 2014, 11:00 am

Helped a friend road his Burrell, threshing drum and trailer loaded with the coal for tomorrow's essex young farmers show to the show ground today. First experience of driving full size engine on the road down some narrow lanes - about 8 miles in all with a stop at the pub halfway for lunch. Looking forward to tomorrow when I will put mine beside friends Burrell called Jessie. Will hopefully get some good photos to put up on the forum - will be a case of little and large beside each other.
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Post  simonbos on Wed 21 May 2014, 9:40 am

Had a great day at Young Farmers Show on Sunday. Engine performed well around grand ring and lots of interest from the public.
Christine pictured beside Jessie
Felt rather dwarfed!
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Post  simonbos on Wed 21 May 2014, 9:48 am

A shot of Christine in front of my neighbours Stanley steam car

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Post  Tony King on Thu 22 May 2014, 12:52 pm

Excellent pics Simon, I used to be a Chelmsford Young Farmer!! Brings back memories!!

However did you see this reports of this incident in Billericay? Fowler "Giant Panther" on it's way from Young Farmers show....Very sad!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2636070/Rare-antique-steam-engine-Giant-Panther-face-100-000-repair-bill-falling-LORRY.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

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Post  simonbos on Fri 23 May 2014, 2:22 am

Thanks Tony
You must have been in Young Farmers same time as me - I was an Ongar member.
I was beside the Barleylands ploughing engine in the main ring at the YF Show last Sunday - in fact I made sure I didn't get too close as I didn't want to be squashed by that monster of an engine.
At the end I watched it being winched onto its low loader and the driver even shouted to me that I ought to get an electric winch when he saw me winching my model on with a hand winch. Is a real tragedy as I think the Philpotts had only just finished restoring this engine and I know it was their pride and joy. Just hope the damage isn't too severe and that it's soon repaired - just glad I wasn't the lorry driver!
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