2" Burrell Kit 21
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2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi All,
We hope to despatch Kit 21 tomorrow. The only item that had delayed the despatch over the last few days is the pressure gauge pipe. Our supplier has had problems sourcing such small diameter pipe but has called to say we should receive it tomorrow. If it comes in tomorrow morning we should have enough time to silver solder, bend it and drop it in to the box in time for the courier arriving.
All the best
Dean
We hope to despatch Kit 21 tomorrow. The only item that had delayed the despatch over the last few days is the pressure gauge pipe. Our supplier has had problems sourcing such small diameter pipe but has called to say we should receive it tomorrow. If it comes in tomorrow morning we should have enough time to silver solder, bend it and drop it in to the box in time for the courier arriving.
All the best
Dean
Steam Traction World- Number of posts: 304
Location: Daventry UK
Registration date: 2008-06-18

Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi Thanks
I SHILL not got in my last box
.AS another hole in the roof
. And been a way caving .
Still soon it will be all done and worm ..May be 
I SHILL not got in my last box

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hello again,
Sorry but the pipe didn't arrive from our supplier to enable us to despatch the kit today. We have managed to source enough this afternoon locally to satisfy the majority of the despatches meaning that the kit will be definately despatched tomorrow (Wednesday 17th June).
Sorry for the delay.
Dean
Sorry but the pipe didn't arrive from our supplier to enable us to despatch the kit today. We have managed to source enough this afternoon locally to satisfy the majority of the despatches meaning that the kit will be definately despatched tomorrow (Wednesday 17th June).
Sorry for the delay.
Dean
Steam Traction World- Number of posts: 304
Location: Daventry UK
Registration date: 2008-06-18

Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Thanks for the heads up and your eforts 

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi Steve..
I noticed on the Edrawings file that water gauge has a protector for it. will we get one on the 2" as I was looking at how close we will have to put the shovel to the glass when firing the engine and one false move could see it crack or break..
The other question is. The rod for working the cylinder drains will this not foul the dog leg pipe that connects to the the 45 deg elbow as it was moved to miss the crank. it looks like it might clash..
And another question! are the cylinder drain pipes meant to have a clamp that goes to the cleading like the 4" or will they just fit snug. not a problem if there's no clamp I just dont want to mess my paint up : D
Cheers for taking part in question time.
Looking forward to this next kit.
Regards
Jo
I noticed on the Edrawings file that water gauge has a protector for it. will we get one on the 2" as I was looking at how close we will have to put the shovel to the glass when firing the engine and one false move could see it crack or break..
The other question is. The rod for working the cylinder drains will this not foul the dog leg pipe that connects to the the 45 deg elbow as it was moved to miss the crank. it looks like it might clash..
And another question! are the cylinder drain pipes meant to have a clamp that goes to the cleading like the 4" or will they just fit snug. not a problem if there's no clamp I just dont want to mess my paint up : D
Cheers for taking part in question time.
Looking forward to this next kit.
Regards
Jo
northburrell- Number of posts: 80
Location: edinburgh
Registration date: 2008-10-15
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi Jo
The 2" Burrell will have a water gauge glass protector. The masters have been made and the lost wax castings are on order. The only problem is sourcing a toughened glass of an appropriate thickness. We're probably going to try a form of mica. Not sure how long this will last because of the temperatures involved. If it doesn't work we will at least still have the four brass rods which will protect the glass tube.
You could well be right for the cylinder drain rod. Looks like we'll have to do some intricate bending (Deans quite good at that
)
We haven't provided any method of clamping the drain pipes to the cladding. The toolbox and board will offer some protection.
Kit 21 which includes the water pump, check valves etc plus blanking plates and plugs to help you run your Burrell on air was despatched today.
Regards
Steve
The 2" Burrell will have a water gauge glass protector. The masters have been made and the lost wax castings are on order. The only problem is sourcing a toughened glass of an appropriate thickness. We're probably going to try a form of mica. Not sure how long this will last because of the temperatures involved. If it doesn't work we will at least still have the four brass rods which will protect the glass tube.
You could well be right for the cylinder drain rod. Looks like we'll have to do some intricate bending (Deans quite good at that
We haven't provided any method of clamping the drain pipes to the cladding. The toolbox and board will offer some protection.
Kit 21 which includes the water pump, check valves etc plus blanking plates and plugs to help you run your Burrell on air was despatched today.
Regards
Steve
Steam Traction World- Number of posts: 304
Location: Daventry UK
Registration date: 2008-06-18

Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
HI STEVE,
WHAT THE CURRENT POSTION WITH THE PART MISSED FROM THE VALVE GEAR KIT (OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PART) YOU PUT A NOTE IN THE KIT SAYING THAT IT WAS STILL WITH THE WATER JETTERS ??
bUNGLE
WHAT THE CURRENT POSTION WITH THE PART MISSED FROM THE VALVE GEAR KIT (OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PART) YOU PUT A NOTE IN THE KIT SAYING THAT IT WAS STILL WITH THE WATER JETTERS ??
bUNGLE
BUNGLE- Number of posts: 216
Age: 51
Location: HERTS (2" BURRELL)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi Bungle
I thing you're refering to the reversing lever spring thingy. Its in Kit 21. It was a right pig to make.
Steve
I thing you're refering to the reversing lever spring thingy. Its in Kit 21. It was a right pig to make.
Steve
Steam Traction World- Number of posts: 304
Location: Daventry UK
Registration date: 2008-06-18

Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
I think Steve should reveal more of Deans "bending" habits 

Vapor- Number of posts: 96
Age: 99
Location: Isle of Wight (2" Burrell & 5" Duchess ex MW)
Registration date: 2008-06-18
Air testing
Just a thought having read through KIT21 instructions, but how can we air test if the glass water level tube is missing? wont the air come out of the holes?
Alan
Alan
Big Al- Number of posts: 86
Age: 55
Location: Oxford, England (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-18
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Thanks for the info on that Steve..
i'm sure even just the brass tubes will do the job. I guess the glass is only used if the gauge breaks, i'v had gauges break and it's not that bad really unlike what it would be like on a full size engine.. saying that though I also notice that the water gauge doesn't have a ball bearing in the bottom part. not all gauges have them but for the people that dont know what it does i'll say here. In the event of a gauge glass breaking (this doesnt happen often unless your really unlucky and hit the glass or the glass has been damaged, allways worth checking the glass before steaming.) the ball will block the bottom of the gauge as the pressure and hot water trys to escape stopping the very hot water from going up in the air or even in your face, the water is more of a danger than the steam in this sort of situation.
I'm sure you'll get the drain rod sorted out : D get bending Dean!
The water gauge needs some gauge glass to stop air coming out (or just cut the rod used to get the gauge setup, use the o rings aswell and that should sort it out.) to be honest i dont have a compressor so I dont think i will run on air. I'm not sure if running on air will do anything much really apart from seeing it turn over, ok you can check the valve settings but all these settings will be lost in steam due to expansion of the boiler.. the blanking plugs are good for hydro tests needed at clubs. my club is fine with using the test STW gave the boiler but it will need a steam test with them.. The funny thing is I actually have a safty valve that I think fits in the 1/4 BSP hole in the blanking plate and a hand pump that can be connected to one of the clack valves..so... I could get it in steam If i wanted too
i'm nowere near that far yet though so I probably wont..
regards
Jo
i'm sure even just the brass tubes will do the job. I guess the glass is only used if the gauge breaks, i'v had gauges break and it's not that bad really unlike what it would be like on a full size engine.. saying that though I also notice that the water gauge doesn't have a ball bearing in the bottom part. not all gauges have them but for the people that dont know what it does i'll say here. In the event of a gauge glass breaking (this doesnt happen often unless your really unlucky and hit the glass or the glass has been damaged, allways worth checking the glass before steaming.) the ball will block the bottom of the gauge as the pressure and hot water trys to escape stopping the very hot water from going up in the air or even in your face, the water is more of a danger than the steam in this sort of situation.
I'm sure you'll get the drain rod sorted out : D get bending Dean!
The water gauge needs some gauge glass to stop air coming out (or just cut the rod used to get the gauge setup, use the o rings aswell and that should sort it out.) to be honest i dont have a compressor so I dont think i will run on air. I'm not sure if running on air will do anything much really apart from seeing it turn over, ok you can check the valve settings but all these settings will be lost in steam due to expansion of the boiler.. the blanking plugs are good for hydro tests needed at clubs. my club is fine with using the test STW gave the boiler but it will need a steam test with them.. The funny thing is I actually have a safty valve that I think fits in the 1/4 BSP hole in the blanking plate and a hand pump that can be connected to one of the clack valves..so... I could get it in steam If i wanted too
regards
Jo
Last edited by northburrell on Thu 18 Jun 2009, 9:51 pm; edited 2 times in total
northburrell- Number of posts: 80
Location: edinburgh
Registration date: 2008-10-15
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
DEANS HABITS HAVE LONG WORRIED ME STEVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO BE VERY CAREFULL WORKING NEAR HIM !!!!!!
BUNGLE
MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO BE VERY CAREFULL WORKING NEAR HIM !!!!!!
BUNGLE
BUNGLE- Number of posts: 216
Age: 51
Location: HERTS (2" BURRELL)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
OK guys
Here is my bit GET this My shead in now not just upside down but inside out ,.
I still not looked at the kit before number 21
But in pulling down the shead top . Found a NOTHER HOLE ...
may be I should give up this thing I am trying to build ??????
HO yes I got my kit in the morning .All looks good BUT the grafite yarn bag is open and all the bits are covared in it .............................................
I love it thanks ..
Here is my bit GET this My shead in now not just upside down but inside out ,.
I still not looked at the kit before number 21
may be I should give up this thing I am trying to build ??????
HO yes I got my kit in the morning .All looks good BUT the grafite yarn bag is open and all the bits are covared in it .............................................
I love it thanks ..

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
I must say, Steve, Dean really nice kit this, I just got home and had a good look...
So how many of those reverser spring mounts did you drop, Loose, eat, find in your tea?! it's tiny!
Regards
Jo
(cracking on with some lining!)
So how many of those reverser spring mounts did you drop, Loose, eat, find in your tea?! it's tiny!
Regards
Jo
(cracking on with some lining!)
northburrell- Number of posts: 80
Location: edinburgh
Registration date: 2008-10-15
Water pump
I have been trial fitting the kit last night and have a problem,
The length of thread on the M4 countersunk screw that holds the 221137 Water pump Ram to 22135 Ram bush is about 1/4 inch
The hole in the ram is about 3/8 less than the overall length of the ram which means that either the M4 screw is not long enough to protrude into the ram to pick up the thread on the bush or, the hole in the ram tube is not deep enough.
I will speak with Steve today to see which is wrong and update the site
cheers
Alan
The length of thread on the M4 countersunk screw that holds the 221137 Water pump Ram to 22135 Ram bush is about 1/4 inch
The hole in the ram is about 3/8 less than the overall length of the ram which means that either the M4 screw is not long enough to protrude into the ram to pick up the thread on the bush or, the hole in the ram tube is not deep enough.
I will speak with Steve today to see which is wrong and update the site
cheers
Alan
Big Al- Number of posts: 86
Age: 55
Location: Oxford, England (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-18
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