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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  TonyT on Wed 08 Jul 2009, 7:06 pm

Thanks for the advice guys,I'll take the pump off the horn plate and give it ago

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  hughb on Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:05 pm

Hi thaks for this Surprised All I can say is I hope I can rember this when I dig out my engine as it is cocooned under a lode of vennears.. Very Happy

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  forge on Wed 08 Jul 2009, 11:21 pm

has anyone had an alignment problem with the pump ram and eccentric as my ram hits the reverse eccentric strap when this is in the correct position. has anyone got a photo of the eccentrics on the crank i can check? i was thinking of moving the pump closer to the hornplate by grinding the base by aprox 1mm. Apart from this small problem and the hours of fun getting the cladding to fit all looks to be going well. a few pics of my progress from last week are in the photo's of 2" burrells thread. http://traction.forumandco.com/owners-photos-f2/photo-s-of-2-burrells-t9-30.htm#1250
Engine turns over by hand nicely, i will be getting a compressor soon to do an air test. what make/size do others have?
thanks Jon

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Post  Big Al on Fri 10 Jul 2009, 5:29 pm

Forge

Can't really see why you have a problem, on the back stroke of the pump the ram doesn't extend beyond the rear spectacle plate and therefore doesn't intrude into the area where the eccentrics are so I cant see how it is fouling them. Put a photo up of your problem

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  BUNGLE on Fri 10 Jul 2009, 9:28 pm

FORGE, WITHOUT SEEING A PIC, I KINDA SUSPECT THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN PUT ON WRONG, OR YOU HAVEN'T MIXED THE PUMP ECCENTRICS UP WITH THE VALVE ECCENTRICS HAVE YOU. JUST A THOUGHT, SILLIER THINGS HAPPEN.

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  forge on Sat 11 Jul 2009, 11:03 am

Thanks for your suggestions.
I will have a look again tomorrow, will take a picture when i have the pump back on. I do not think i have got the eccentrics on wrong as the valve gear looks like it works well. i spent a long time fitting it and was careful to get the right bits in the right place! i might just check the engine on air before going any further. For my valve eccentrics and valve gear to turn over smoothly i have put the eccentrics on the crank with a small gap between them, is this correct? does anyone have a picture or their valve gear / crankshaft with the water pump fitted. I could then compare with mine.
not easy to explain in words, so will take a photo when i have everything back together as valve gear was removed to ease cladding fitment! lol

the easy way to sort out mu problem would be to take off 1mm from the mounting surface on the pump. then everything will line up. i have extended the thread on the water feed 90 deg elbow so the pipe to the clack valve lines up in the u clamps. i hope i am not alone in not having the top bit of these?

Still very impressed with the quality of recent parts from STW! i will be getting itchy feet when its finished, so looking at the 4" DCC road or scenic to keep me in my shed for a few more years!

Oh, i will be at Weeting Steal rally next weekend. Is anyone going?

jon

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  TonyT on Sat 11 Jul 2009, 5:58 pm

Hi guys

Had the engine running on air today cheers sounds wonderful,runs lovely,if a little tight,but I know it will loosen up in time Smile

I have got some video footage of it,but I don't know how to get it onto the forum.

Anyhow HAPPY DAYS what with MW going down,not knowing what was going to happen,and the birth of STW,I feel today is a major milestone passed.Dean,Steve and everyone else at STW,thanks,you're all doing a good job.

Time to celebrate with beer Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

cheer's Tony


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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  BUNGLE on Sat 11 Jul 2009, 7:22 pm

FORGE,
WEATHER PERMITTING DAD AND I SHOULD BE AT WEETING, POSS SAT, BUT REALLY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET. WAS GOING TO GO TO GUILDFORD, BUT LIKE WEETING, BEEN GOING SINCE A KID (51 NOW).

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  LilyJack on Sun 12 Jul 2009, 5:29 pm

Tony,

Good ole boy!!!!!! Am mostly lookin forwards to seeing the video if you get to suss it out. Ask the kids if u have any, buggers know more about this stuff than we do Shocked

Take it easy chap..

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Running on Air

Post  Big Al on Tue 14 Jul 2009, 10:09 am

Somewhere on this site I mentioned the banging/thumping noise that I was experiencing when running on air, well I stripped all the eccentrics and big end bearing, checked them and reassembled after minute adjustment and guess what, still had the noise Crying or Very sad

Whilst I was running it I was a bit concerned that the flywheel was only loosley held on by the key. Couldn't find a grub screw to lock it on (Have we been provided with one yet?) so used a bolt to lock it on.

Got it running again and the noise totally disappeared. It was the play in the flywheel that was causing the problem after all. Now chuffs, whooshes, whirrs and turns over really well. Smile

Anyone else deciding to run on air should note!!!

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  hughb on Tue 14 Jul 2009, 8:22 pm

TonyT wrote:Hi guys

Had the engine running on air today cheers sounds wonderful,runs lovely,if a little tight,but I know it will loosen up in time Smile

I have got some video footage of it,but I don't know how to get it onto the forum.

Anyhow HAPPY DAYS what with MW going down,not knowing what was going to happen,and the birth of STW,I feel today is a major milestone passed.Dean,Steve and everyone else at STW,thanks,you're all doing a good job.

Time to celebrate with beer Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

cheer's Tony

HI mate
sounds good looking forward to it ..WELL DONE Very Happy Cool Laughing

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  BUNGLE on Tue 14 Jul 2009, 10:42 pm

HI AL.

WE DID GET A COUPLE OF GRUB SCREWS FOR THE FLYWHEEL WITH IT. CHECK YOUR OLD BOXS/PACKAGING.

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  forge on Wed 15 Jul 2009, 6:32 pm

my waterpump is fitted. all it required was 1.1mm taking off the mounting flange. engine turns over by hand very well. Just need to sort out the reverser and reach rod, then its air test time Very Happy

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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21

Post  hughb on Thu 16 Jul 2009, 7:48 pm

forge wrote:my waterpump is fitted. all it required was 1.1mm taking off the mounting flange. engine turns over by hand very well. Just need to sort out the reverser and reach rod, then its air test time Very Happy

Hi good luck on the test Laughing Wink will up post?

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Running on air

Post  TonyT on Sun 19 Jul 2009, 4:11 pm

Hi all

I couldn't stop myself and ended up buying a compressor during the week,and have been running the engine on air quite a bit.

Just a word of warning,I have found a fair bit of work to do now.The 2 valve eccentrics have worked loose and wobble a little on the crank,water pump 1 is still tight,but I will still check it.Both the main bearings now need adjusting,backward and foward adjustment,and all my glands on the cylinder block will need a bit more packing.

One thing I have found whilst running on air is the amount of water collecting in the valve chest,so give this a good clean out afterwards.Julia also mentioned this problem when she first ran her 4" on air.

Apart from that no problems,engine seems to run smoother,and I can now run the engine on 25/30 psi,although I do seem to be using a fair amount of oil in the lubricators.Are wicks too big?

All for now

Tony Smile

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