2" Burrell Kit 21
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Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Thanks for the advice guys,I'll take the pump off the horn plate and give it ago
Cheer's Tony
Cheer's Tony
Last edited by TonyT on Wed 08 Jul 2009, 7:07 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : spelling)

TonyT- Number of posts: 94
Age: 41
Location: Truro,Cornwall. (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi thaks for this
All I can say is I hope I can rember this when I dig out my engine as it is cocooned under a lode of vennears.. 

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
has anyone had an alignment problem with the pump ram and eccentric as my ram hits the reverse eccentric strap when this is in the correct position. has anyone got a photo of the eccentrics on the crank i can check? i was thinking of moving the pump closer to the hornplate by grinding the base by aprox 1mm. Apart from this small problem and the hours of fun getting the cladding to fit all looks to be going well. a few pics of my progress from last week are in the photo's of 2" burrells thread. http://traction.forumandco.com/owners-photos-f2/photo-s-of-2-burrells-t9-30.htm#1250
Engine turns over by hand nicely, i will be getting a compressor soon to do an air test. what make/size do others have?
thanks Jon
Engine turns over by hand nicely, i will be getting a compressor soon to do an air test. what make/size do others have?
thanks Jon
forge- Number of posts: 36
Location: Norfolk (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-07-01
Forge Query
Forge
Can't really see why you have a problem, on the back stroke of the pump the ram doesn't extend beyond the rear spectacle plate and therefore doesn't intrude into the area where the eccentrics are so I cant see how it is fouling them. Put a photo up of your problem
Alan
Can't really see why you have a problem, on the back stroke of the pump the ram doesn't extend beyond the rear spectacle plate and therefore doesn't intrude into the area where the eccentrics are so I cant see how it is fouling them. Put a photo up of your problem
Alan
Big Al- Number of posts: 86
Age: 55
Location: Oxford, England (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-18
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
FORGE, WITHOUT SEEING A PIC, I KINDA SUSPECT THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN PUT ON WRONG, OR YOU HAVEN'T MIXED THE PUMP ECCENTRICS UP WITH THE VALVE ECCENTRICS HAVE YOU. JUST A THOUGHT, SILLIER THINGS HAPPEN.
BUNGLE
BUNGLE
BUNGLE- Number of posts: 216
Age: 51
Location: HERTS (2" BURRELL)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Thanks for your suggestions.
I will have a look again tomorrow, will take a picture when i have the pump back on. I do not think i have got the eccentrics on wrong as the valve gear looks like it works well. i spent a long time fitting it and was careful to get the right bits in the right place! i might just check the engine on air before going any further. For my valve eccentrics and valve gear to turn over smoothly i have put the eccentrics on the crank with a small gap between them, is this correct? does anyone have a picture or their valve gear / crankshaft with the water pump fitted. I could then compare with mine.
not easy to explain in words, so will take a photo when i have everything back together as valve gear was removed to ease cladding fitment! lol
the easy way to sort out mu problem would be to take off 1mm from the mounting surface on the pump. then everything will line up. i have extended the thread on the water feed 90 deg elbow so the pipe to the clack valve lines up in the u clamps. i hope i am not alone in not having the top bit of these?
Still very impressed with the quality of recent parts from STW! i will be getting itchy feet when its finished, so looking at the 4" DCC road or scenic to keep me in my shed for a few more years!
Oh, i will be at Weeting Steal rally next weekend. Is anyone going?
jon
I will have a look again tomorrow, will take a picture when i have the pump back on. I do not think i have got the eccentrics on wrong as the valve gear looks like it works well. i spent a long time fitting it and was careful to get the right bits in the right place! i might just check the engine on air before going any further. For my valve eccentrics and valve gear to turn over smoothly i have put the eccentrics on the crank with a small gap between them, is this correct? does anyone have a picture or their valve gear / crankshaft with the water pump fitted. I could then compare with mine.
not easy to explain in words, so will take a photo when i have everything back together as valve gear was removed to ease cladding fitment! lol
the easy way to sort out mu problem would be to take off 1mm from the mounting surface on the pump. then everything will line up. i have extended the thread on the water feed 90 deg elbow so the pipe to the clack valve lines up in the u clamps. i hope i am not alone in not having the top bit of these?
Still very impressed with the quality of recent parts from STW! i will be getting itchy feet when its finished, so looking at the 4" DCC road or scenic to keep me in my shed for a few more years!
Oh, i will be at Weeting Steal rally next weekend. Is anyone going?
jon
forge- Number of posts: 36
Location: Norfolk (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-07-01
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Hi guys
Had the engine running on air today
sounds wonderful,runs lovely,if a little tight,but I know it will loosen up in time
I have got some video footage of it,but I don't know how to get it onto the forum.
Anyhow HAPPY DAYS what with MW going down,not knowing what was going to happen,and the birth of STW,I feel today is a major milestone passed.Dean,Steve and everyone else at STW,thanks,you're all doing a good job.
Time to celebrate with beer
cheer's Tony
Had the engine running on air today
I have got some video footage of it,but I don't know how to get it onto the forum.
Anyhow HAPPY DAYS what with MW going down,not knowing what was going to happen,and the birth of STW,I feel today is a major milestone passed.Dean,Steve and everyone else at STW,thanks,you're all doing a good job.
Time to celebrate with beer
cheer's Tony
Last edited by TonyT on Sat 11 Jul 2009, 6:02 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : crep spilling)

TonyT- Number of posts: 94
Age: 41
Location: Truro,Cornwall. (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
FORGE,
WEATHER PERMITTING DAD AND I SHOULD BE AT WEETING, POSS SAT, BUT REALLY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET. WAS GOING TO GO TO GUILDFORD, BUT LIKE WEETING, BEEN GOING SINCE A KID (51 NOW).
BUNGLE
WEATHER PERMITTING DAD AND I SHOULD BE AT WEETING, POSS SAT, BUT REALLY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET. WAS GOING TO GO TO GUILDFORD, BUT LIKE WEETING, BEEN GOING SINCE A KID (51 NOW).
BUNGLE
BUNGLE- Number of posts: 216
Age: 51
Location: HERTS (2" BURRELL)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
Tony,
Good ole boy!!!!!! Am mostly lookin forwards to seeing the video if you get to suss it out. Ask the kids if u have any, buggers know more about this stuff than we do
Take it easy chap..
Best Regards
LilyJack
Good ole boy!!!!!! Am mostly lookin forwards to seeing the video if you get to suss it out. Ask the kids if u have any, buggers know more about this stuff than we do
Take it easy chap..
Best Regards
LilyJack
LilyJack- Number of posts: 115
Location: UK
Registration date: 2009-04-01
Running on Air
Somewhere on this site I mentioned the banging/thumping noise that I was experiencing when running on air, well I stripped all the eccentrics and big end bearing, checked them and reassembled after minute adjustment and guess what, still had the noise
Whilst I was running it I was a bit concerned that the flywheel was only loosley held on by the key. Couldn't find a grub screw to lock it on (Have we been provided with one yet?) so used a bolt to lock it on.
Got it running again and the noise totally disappeared. It was the play in the flywheel that was causing the problem after all. Now chuffs, whooshes, whirrs and turns over really well.
Anyone else deciding to run on air should note!!!
Alan
Whilst I was running it I was a bit concerned that the flywheel was only loosley held on by the key. Couldn't find a grub screw to lock it on (Have we been provided with one yet?) so used a bolt to lock it on.
Got it running again and the noise totally disappeared. It was the play in the flywheel that was causing the problem after all. Now chuffs, whooshes, whirrs and turns over really well.
Anyone else deciding to run on air should note!!!
Alan
Big Al- Number of posts: 86
Age: 55
Location: Oxford, England (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-18
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
TonyT wrote:Hi guys
Had the engine running on air todaysounds wonderful,runs lovely,if a little tight,but I know it will loosen up in time
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I have got some video footage of it,but I don't know how to get it onto the forum.
Anyhow HAPPY DAYS what with MW going down,not knowing what was going to happen,and the birth of STW,I feel today is a major milestone passed.Dean,Steve and everyone else at STW,thanks,you're all doing a good job.
Time to celebrate with beer![]()
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cheer's Tony
HI mate
sounds good looking forward to it ..WELL DONE

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
HI AL.
WE DID GET A COUPLE OF GRUB SCREWS FOR THE FLYWHEEL WITH IT. CHECK YOUR OLD BOXS/PACKAGING.
BUNGLE
WE DID GET A COUPLE OF GRUB SCREWS FOR THE FLYWHEEL WITH IT. CHECK YOUR OLD BOXS/PACKAGING.
BUNGLE
BUNGLE- Number of posts: 216
Age: 51
Location: HERTS (2" BURRELL)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
my waterpump is fitted. all it required was 1.1mm taking off the mounting flange. engine turns over by hand very well. Just need to sort out the reverser and reach rod, then its air test time 
forge- Number of posts: 36
Location: Norfolk (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-07-01
Re: 2" Burrell Kit 21
forge wrote:my waterpump is fitted. all it required was 1.1mm taking off the mounting flange. engine turns over by hand very well. Just need to sort out the reverser and reach rod, then its air test time
Hi good luck on the test

hughb- Number of posts: 220
Age: 39
Location: hertfordshire
Registration date: 2009-03-13
Running on air
Hi all
I couldn't stop myself and ended up buying a compressor during the week,and have been running the engine on air quite a bit.
Just a word of warning,I have found a fair bit of work to do now.The 2 valve eccentrics have worked loose and wobble a little on the crank,water pump 1 is still tight,but I will still check it.Both the main bearings now need adjusting,backward and foward adjustment,and all my glands on the cylinder block will need a bit more packing.
One thing I have found whilst running on air is the amount of water collecting in the valve chest,so give this a good clean out afterwards.Julia also mentioned this problem when she first ran her 4" on air.
Apart from that no problems,engine seems to run smoother,and I can now run the engine on 25/30 psi,although I do seem to be using a fair amount of oil in the lubricators.Are wicks too big?
All for now
Tony
I couldn't stop myself and ended up buying a compressor during the week,and have been running the engine on air quite a bit.
Just a word of warning,I have found a fair bit of work to do now.The 2 valve eccentrics have worked loose and wobble a little on the crank,water pump 1 is still tight,but I will still check it.Both the main bearings now need adjusting,backward and foward adjustment,and all my glands on the cylinder block will need a bit more packing.
One thing I have found whilst running on air is the amount of water collecting in the valve chest,so give this a good clean out afterwards.Julia also mentioned this problem when she first ran her 4" on air.
Apart from that no problems,engine seems to run smoother,and I can now run the engine on 25/30 psi,although I do seem to be using a fair amount of oil in the lubricators.Are wicks too big?
All for now
Tony

TonyT- Number of posts: 94
Age: 41
Location: Truro,Cornwall. (2" Burrell)
Registration date: 2008-06-17
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